Why fans are allowed to have not missed the Old Firm derby

April 19, 2016

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“Over the past few years some people have said they haven’t missed the Old Firm game. Frankly they’ve been lying through their teeth!”

Those were the words spoken by David Tanner at the half time whistle on Sky Sports’ coverage of Sunday’s Old Firm game.

And my heart sank.

Then later on that day I was driving in my car listening to a fans’ phone-in on Sportsound – something that’s been conveniently resurrected now that there’s an Old Firm tie to talk about – and heard a jubilant panel discussing how brilliant it was to see the tie back and how this must destroy any hopes of a 16 team league because we ‘need’ four of those fixtures per season.

And my heart sank further.

The bad old days of Scottish football have returned.

Now before you jump to any conclusions and think that this will be a negative, bitter article from a non-Old Firm fan about Rangers and Celtic, it’s not. Rangers have earned their return to the top flight, Sunday’s game certainly was a dramatic spectacle and the fans of both clubs are entitled to be happy about the return of the fixture in exactly the same way as I was happy at the return of the Dundee Derby.

My problem isn’t with the Old Firm or their fans.

It’s about the way they – and by extension the other clubs in Scotland – are portrayed by sections of the media.

Let’s take Tanner’s comment for a start.

Here’s a man who is the lead presenter for Scottish Football on Sky. A man whose job it is to promote Scottish Football as a whole, and not just Rangers and Celtic.

And he’s coming away with a line like that?

Where do I even begin? And that’s a serious question by the way because I’m honestly struggling.

Well I could take a more moralistic tone and suggest he goes around the various police stations and A&E departments in Glasgow and its surrounding areas and ask – based on its legacy – if they are happy it’s back, but I won’t.

Instead, I’ll just ask one simple question.

As a fan of a different club, why would I be lying?

The answer to this question – that I honestly don’t care about teams that aren’t my own – is one that so many Scottish football pundits fail to grasp.

But why would I care? I’m a customer of Dundee United, not Rangers or Celtic or even ‘Scottish Football’, so they are the team relevant to me. They are the team who I am emotionally tied to, just like an Aberdeen fan only cares about Aberdeen and an Annan Athletic fan cares about Annan.

The same thing is true of title races; if my team is not involved then I don’t care. It makes no difference to me if it’s a one or two horse race if my horse isn’t in it.

Why can’t people grasp that? Why do they think that we must care and that if we say we don’t, we’re lying?

Because the people who do say it are probably fans of Rangers or Celtic themselves – even though they are seemingly not allowed to admit it – and they just can’t understand our thinking.

And that’s Scottish Football’s biggest problem; that most of the people in charge of setting the agenda are influenced by their own personal feelings towards a club.

That’s not me claiming something sinister is going on, it’s just human nature.

But they need to stop letting their own emotions get in the way of doing what they are paid to do.

In some respects, I understand it; the team at the Daily Record for example are entitled to act as if the Old Firm is the centre of the universe because that’s what sells their papers. I get that; that’s fine.

But it’s unbecoming of a guy paid to present Scottish Football on Sky or for people hired by a public broadcaster like the BBC to essentially say “Thank God the Old Firm is back together; this is all that matters”.

What matters in Scottish football is the paying customer; the punter who goes through the gate at 3pm on a Saturday afternoon. They are the ones who are putting money in to the game and the ones who clubs need to survive.

But they aren’t being listened to.

So many people want change but if the guys on Sportsound are to be believed the desires of the fans who actually go to games should take a back seat to a group of hypothetical armchair fans whose only desire is to see Rangers and Celtic play against each other four times a season.

Like I say, it’s a return to the bad old days and a status quo where only two teams matter.

But I’ll leave you with two points to consider.

The first is that some people in Scottish Football will tell you we need the Old Firm together for a title race. In the last 13 years of top division football involving both Rangers and Celtic, seven of those seasons saw one of the teams win the league by 12 points or more. How is that a title race but this season – where Aberdeen are only 8 points behind with 5 games to play – is not?

The other point is this…

Right now the biggest story in world football is Leicester City and their march to the top of the English Premiership. In a footballing world that has lost almost all sense of freshness and unpredictability, this has garnered interest because it’s something different. If the English Premiership had a league where teams played each other four times, would they be in the position they are in now? Highly unlikely.

The main reason the paying customers of Scottish clubs – and I should point out that the combined average attendances of the other 20 clubs in the top two divisions actually exceeds that of the Old Firm, even though it doesn’t seem to count for anything when it comes to decision making – want something different is because they believe that playing more teams twice might add a bit of unpredictability to events and see a team outside of Glasgow’s giants pick up the title.

But if Sunday’s output is anything to go by, that isn’t important to those whose job it is to promote the game.

After all, the main thing is that Rangers and Celtic play each other as often as possible, and if we don’t agree with that, we’re lying through our teeth.

 

Written by Stuart Milne


Comments

  1. Bill Doyle - April 19, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    A very well put together article and agree wholeheartedly with the writers comments. Add 1 personal comment which many of my friends a colleagues would also agree with. Glasgow media rules

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  2. George Webster - April 19, 2016 at 2:59 pm

    I would totally agree with everything that has been said here, If Scottish Football is to survive and grow we need a bigger league, A league where young kids get a chance to showcase their talent without a lasting fear that they wont, Scotland needs young players coming through if we are to ever compete in World and European games.The game is about fans and young players in the wonderful game.

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  3. Jolyon wagg - April 19, 2016 at 3:04 pm

    What the hell is this utter gibberish? Do you not grasp the idea of a double negative? Fans are allowed to have *not* missed the match? Do you want to rethink this garbled, moronic headline?

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  4. James McCreadie - April 19, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    Fantastic article. A great read and so, so accurate.

    I’ve been accused of being obsessed because I’ve said I don’t care about the ‘Old Firm’ Derby returning.

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  5. Martin - April 19, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    Indeed. Excellent article. I’m a Celtic fan but I realise not everyone is and as a result people prioritise things differently. The issue I fear is the tv cameras essentially following Celtic and rangers around the country next season, cutting gate receipts in the process. It’s not like the TV money is anything but derisory, so this has financial implications for clubs.

    I’m sick of people talking down Scottish football and I only see that getting worse next year.

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  6. Neil - April 19, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    Very much agree with everything, and would extend that which seems to be implied: as a fan of Dundee United like yourself, if Utd were to go out of business, as a Scotsman, I’d sadly lose all interest in Scottish football, follow the national team alone, and extend my interest in my foreign teams, Kyiv and Bilbao. Perhaps fans of the Rangers and Celtic would say I’m lying, cos I or my sons, will have or develop a secret love for one of them. All supporters of the ‘other’ teams know the truth.

    And the comment you open your post with reminds me of some radio presenter about 10 years ago or so commenting on a Scotland match (BBC I’m pretty sure) saying ‘Scotland fans are funny. They don’t really support a club team’. I’ll leave you to ponder on what the f… that means.

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  7. Tam mcgeary - April 19, 2016 at 6:05 pm

    Agree with you 100% the old firm died in 2012 and the bile returned big time on Sunday I for 1 never missed it and I go to all the celtic games so I can understand fans of other clubs not giving a shite either David tanner is one of the most irritating little shits ever to commentate on Scottish football

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  8. Mike Lennie - April 19, 2016 at 6:27 pm

    Superb article. The return of Rangers to the top flight is akin to when you’re having a great time at the pub with your pals and that guy who noone likes, and who becomes an aggressive liability after two pints, shows up and promptly ruins the night for everyone.

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  9. buffythecat - April 19, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    There is no Old Firm it died when Rangers died in 2012 – likewise your comment ”rangers have earned their return to the top flight” – Rangers are a new club put together by Charles Green fro the left over parts of the old dead Rangers and played their first game when the SFA bent and broke their own rules to allow Sevco Scotland to play Brechin in a Cup game – they have NEVER been in the top flight. I am neither a Celtic not a Sevco supporter and I too am fed up with the lies and propaganda that says we must all love this fixture – rubbish it stinks as much as the SFA’s contempt for the Scottish game and the other clubs.

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  10. Alicat - April 20, 2016 at 3:24 am

    Spot on

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  11. Graeme - April 20, 2016 at 5:21 am

    This Hearts fan 99% agrees with you. Good article!

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  12. Scott - April 20, 2016 at 6:18 am

    Excellent article currently out of the country at the mo upon hearing the Scottish twang I’m asked time & again which arse cheek I like best, I explain I hate them both equally along with every other team bar the famous JTS👍

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  13. gerry - April 20, 2016 at 12:38 pm

    I agree that we need 16 teams back. So what if we only play two derbies, against Rangers . There are far more interesting games than just Glasgow Mafia. I’m a tim and want back to the good old days of two games a piece.

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  14. Kenny Frater - April 20, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    Many many great points well made.

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  15. Steve Gabriel - April 20, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    Brilliant article, 100% spot on 👍

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  16. Chris kilgallon - April 20, 2016 at 7:03 pm

    All so true, I’m a life long Celtic fan but can’t bear Scotland being subjected to this game. Was great to see other clubs winning cups and it’s seems the likes of Aberdeen, Hearts getting stronger is only good for the league.Every fan in the country wants a bigger league, it can be done 16 /18 teams and a split each team within the split playing each other twice. This would give Sky there 4 Celtic / rangers games.

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  17. Astro - April 21, 2016 at 2:00 am

    It would be interesting to see the drop in accident and emergency figures over the years that Rangers have been outside the top tier and there being no Rangers vs Celtic games. The drop must be significant without those games in the calendar.

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  18. Colin Mitchell - April 21, 2016 at 3:07 am

    Whilst your feelings are heartfelt, your reasons are misguided. Scottish football has had 4 seasons to prepare itself to not need the old firm. An explanation of this can be given using your two reasons…..firstly, if the fans of the other Scottish teams cared, they’d be attending their own teams matches, 15000 home supporters isn’t what our league needs, stadiums full to capacity is what’s needed. Secondly, the gap currently between the teams isn’t a reflection on improved performance, it’s a reflection of how Celtic have dropped. Using the same example of why it’s not a two horse race over the years, how far behind was third, when the gap between first and second was 12? If you’re one of the short sighted who for several correct reasons don’t welcome the return, then you have to ask, were you one who hoped for the TV deal years ago? Were you one who was happy with the standard, the constant drop in the coefficient by performances in Europe or the new “competitive” league that Celtic have won for the last 4 years. Look at the points gap 4 years ago to third, look where we are now, there’s a reason two young rebuilt Championship teams are in the cup final, it’s because 4 years of no old firm has dragged our top league down.

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